Local officials throughout the US are trying to organize resources in order to prepare for a potential epidemic of patients suffering from the highly feared H1N1 strain. Nancy Cordes reports.
H1N1: Preparing For The Worst
Published: May 16, 2010Posted in: Uncategorized
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Well you can operate on conjecture and opinion and faith if you prefer. I prefer hard evidence. I have provided the model for hard evidence, which doesn’t exist as you said.
That fact that it doesn’t exist doesn’t mean it shouldn’t.
@indoctus41 The reason the statistic you seek is not available, I suspect, is that it does not exist. Of the deaths described in the press & repeated here on YouTube, 0% have been vaccinated. One perfectly healthy child died in less than 24 hours. She was 6 years old. Yes, the simplest explanation is the best. H1N1 is a deadly disease prevented by vaccine.
@indoctus41 You are, of course, entitled to your views. The true toll of the H1N1 Pandemic won’t be known for a long time to come. Every scientific component can’t be analyzed, even today, but will be known someday. We have to act, for better or worse, with the information we have at the time. This is a preventable disease. No one should be dying from H1N1 with a free (at county health departments), effective vaccine and yet there will still be more deaths. Peace and good health to all!
blawlor100:
You’ve heard of Ockham’s Razor – the simplest explanation is likely the best one.
Take those who have died from H1N1, any sample large enough to be meaningful, and look at their vaccination records. If 0% had been vaccinated, the vaccine is proven effective, if 50% were vaccinated, it is completely ineffective. Any ratio between 0% and 50% will give you a rate of effectiveness.
Ockham’s Razor. It’s so simple. Child’s play really.
blawlor100:
You speak in absolutes, pretending the vaccine has been proven effective, working your views inside this conceptual world. That’s not science. And I suspect that many people, given the millions refusing the vaccine, and who are not convinced by the “appeal to authority as proof”, remain unvaccinated and healthy.
Scientific proof requires you use every means to determine something as fact, and since the meds are refusing the simplest proof, I, and others, question the conclusion.
@indoctus41 H1N1 severely damages the lining of the lungs; oxygen can not pass to the bloodstream. When a person dies this way, the doctor determines this a H1N1 death. H1N1 vaccine prevents the infection, but takes 2 weeks to be effective. There may be some H1N1 deaths in those whom the vaccine had not yet become effective. I suspect very few because the vaccine became widely available only recently. Since I am not there to observe, I can only speak to my own thinking.
blawlor100:
You state, “To my thinking”. The logical fallacy is that you are assuming that since the vaccine works, those who die must not have been vaccinated.
I’m asking you and the medical community to think about proving your conjectures, rather than considering as scientific unsubstantiated views.
As well, since less than 50% have been vaccinated, a decline in occurrences looks more like the disease was naturally in decline.
@indoctus41 The tests we have currently are not accurate. So CDC advised the medical community to begin agressive treatment based on the symptoms. VEARS is the reporting site for suspected vaccine reactions (very low), including any deaths. The H1N1 deaths reported by the CDC in Fluview are those of unvaccinated persons, to my thinking. Effectiveness of the vaccine is shown by the the incidents of the disease falling nationwide (this had begun soon after mass vaccinations had started).
blawlor100:
I checked your reference: nothing. The team of doctors at science based medicine claim that tests on H1N1 patients and victims are too costly and IT IS NOT DONE (remember those words).
Data compiled by CDC or anyone else about H1N1 is based on doctor’s guesses, not reality, and certainly not on science.
The best way to determine how effective a vaccine is, is to determine the ratio of vaccinated/unvaccinated among the dead. This is not done, and so you have to ask why?
@indoctus41 Go to the VEARS site for the latest information tracking the H1N1 vaccine. As of February 2010, H1N1 is continuing to circulate throughout the US, per CDC. More than 70 million in the US have been vaccinated so far.
H1N1 UPDATE: February 2010, CDC reports more than 11,690 US H1N1 deaths, more than 257,000 US H1N1 hospitalizations, more than 70 million US H1N1 vaccinations. Children are dying at 5 times the rate during a seasonal flu. Pregnant women (& postpartum) are 6 times more likely to die from H1N1 than another infected adult. H1N1 can be prevented with vaccine. H1N1 vaccine can be found at county health departments, doctors’ offices & pharmacies. See my channel for more information.
OK folks. I’ve asked doctors, pharmacists, nurses & drug companies how many of those who died from the H1N1 virus were vaccinated, and guess what. NOBODY KNOWS.
And do you know why they don’t know such-easy-to gather information?
Obviously the news is not good. We hear about deaths, but not about the raw numbers, the hard facts, the real science that proves that the vaccine either works or it doesn’t.
Anyway, all you sheep can now go back to sleep.
“We do not see the virulence…” Is that why the Obama Administrations death estimate from the flu almost quadrupled overnight, from 1500 to 4000. Oops! Still 80% of people who need the vaccine don’t have it, and don’t know when they’ll have it. Obama hasn’t said shit about in weeks. Fucking one term president!
In fact, the H1N1 has a pattern of striking many with robust immune systems very hard! That’s why young college age adults are dying too. That’s one of it’s quirks. I hits normally healthy people harder.
what evidence do you have to support you’re claim?? can you show me the papers from the study that support what you are saying??
It is the squalene, aluminum and mercury when INJECTED into the bloodstream that is so much more deleterious to health than eating toxic substances.
h1n1 handbook:
w w w (dot) h1n1666 (dot) com
there’s no reason to panic over this flu unless your immune system is awful.
this video discribes vaccines the best, its my kennedy watch?v=dAPIL40gS6k
ive never hear jenny talk about it… thats the same thing everyone tells me.
there is no evidence at all that people go autistic from a vaccine. don’t listen to jenny mcarthy.
thank you for taking the time to talk to me. it is nice to see 2 youtube users that may not agree can still discuss what they believe without name calling.
I’ll look into what you said. if I find i am wrong I’ll get back to you.
peace
there is mercury in the shots, but there is also mercury in a can of tuna. thats part of the miss-information people hear mercury and they get scared but what they don’t know is there is more mercury in a tuna sub then the shot.
I’ll have to agree with you on that one. the media dose hyp things up ect mad cow. and when the media was wasting it time with mad cow people were getting sick for ecoili.
theunmaskedmagician
i know couple people who are paralyzed from medication.
They know all of this stuff can happen with vaccines thats why they even list these things in the vaccine insert. Yet there on tv saying thats its perfectly fine. And they say theres no mercury in the shots. When the insert says it does. This is why im so pasionate about this. Theres just way to many contradictions, And an incredible amount of scientific evidence.
watch?v=zpGXTSIyocE part of the conspiracy.
theunmaskedmagician
Also many doctors and scientist have come out publicly and said that this flu is very weak. 10% the strengh of normal flu. Only 1000 have died in the US this year and 40,000 die just from normal flu. So the media hype is pretty nuts when you think about that.
But whats is even crazier is that pregnant women and children used to be hi risk for vaccine side effects and now they want to give them the shot first ! And They are giving them the live virus.